Another life/world that we are in, in our minds

[Magpie]

Bismillah, As-Salaam-Alaykum,

Can anyone please explain this? I see another world in my vision, looking at reality from a different focus I can see it. The thing is that it's not just me that can see it, there are many others there as well.

It is widespread in Pakistan, but it's a kind of culture and people that govern this or live their lives according to it, or anyone that knows about it never wants to talk about it like it is a real thing, in the real world.

The people that were already there, many guys, they have raped me homosexually in that world. It is an unseen world but some people definitely can see it. My own family members, neighbours, and many childhood acquaintances have been doing really bad things to me through it. They have been sexually attacking me to take my life energy out of my body to take over my mind or the imagination or dream-state that is in it.

This was a really special world, and it was all for me. I had all of the power over it. It's a gift from Allah Subhanahuwata'ala probably. But these people, they just do bad things and when they see good spirited people like me, they want to take the goodness out of us or keep us down from it.

I don't know, they talk about there being an up and down, and high and low.

They're many influential people of the world and they're all like this. People we see on TV regularly in Pakistan or anywhere else in the world. All like this. But not all as bad.

Just the question I have is, why do you people choose to keep this a secret? I know there are probably many people on pakgamers as well that are like this.

They are like the vampires etc..


People like Amaga, abobobilly, and some others I have all seen there. They work in it or live it as second life in their thoughts/minds.

Please help me, the police doesn't care about it at all.

This is not a psychological problem, I cannot show it to you, but it's there in many other ways evident.
I cannot show evidence of rape. It's kind of spiritual.


The biggest evidence is probably if you're living in Lahore, the huge balls of light that fall from the sky at night easily visible!

It has been 3 years now since this has been happening to me.


Thanks, Insha'Allah I will find some help here, As-Salaam-Alaykum.

 

[hamidkhatri]

[MENTION=12914]Magpie[/MENTION] wasalam. I think you need medical attention asap, like psychiatrist. I know, you think you have no psychological problems but there are diseases which dont seem to be abnormal to the patient, go see a psychiatrist dude.

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[Magpie]

I get you but I can explain it logically. Plus surah baqarah verse 3 tells us there is a hidden/unseen world beyond normal perception.

There are too many other people there for it to be a psychological problem. Lots of people know about this and do it.

But they do it secretly. They guard this secret. They just fool people like me.

 

[GloriousChicken]

Let me get this clear.
From what I understand, is that you see yourself in the other dimension and feel as if you're being affected?


what I can say, is you should disregard that and focus on the reality that you are in, not any other.
Leave the other worlds be.

Secondly, This is a matter resolved personally through a psychiatrist. He can help you out while being there with you, Step by Step.
We're not with you, and whatever we say will not reach you deeply.


Edit: Honestly through, I see a huge projection of what reality has done to you from this post. (Just a hunch)
Has something bad happened in the past, by any chance? Anything that is more related to whatever you're saying at the moment.

Such as, any bad social experience, like not being grateful to your kindness, or sexual harrassment, Anything of the sort?

 

[EternalBlizzard]

People like Amaga, abobobilly, and some others I have all seen there. They work in it or live it as second life in their thoughts/minds.

@abobobilly really man? xD

 

[abobobilly]

Bro, welcome to the era of next gen. The era of mind f*cking video games and movies. Welcome to the other dimension of this wretched world, the dimension all gamers live in. Don't get raped, though. It's not funny.

 

[Magpie]

Hey thanks for this. I love the posts, but what about how abobobilly said "mind-rape". It doesn't mean anything does it? But that's what I'm talking about, it does!
People get their minds raped in the inner world.

Listen, you have to understand that this is real and there are people coming to me inside those worlds to do bad things to me and steal my mind and know me from a place that Allah knows only and should know only.

My neighbours and my own family members are doing bad things to me homosexual.

If you can help me or if you know about this then let me know.


The main point is that it's an on-going thing and they do it to me everyday, they're farming energy/intelligence off me to feed it to their lesser selves. A psychiatrist will never be able to explain it in any terms except those in his own knowledge. Psychology does talk about this with Dr. Sigmund Freud's ego, 'id, super ego, and consciousness, subconsciousness but they want to work with these things without making them seem like a real thing.

It is another reality, but it's not there as physically as we are.

Psychiatrists and doctors, their job is to give me medicine and to treat it as a problem, especially in Pakistan, where people don't really care.


Can I get the police to do an official investigation into all of this?

I need someone's help to do that, because when I went to them myself, they didn't treat me well or give me much importance. In this whole year, I've met the police atleast 5 times to ask them about it. 5-10 times. And they used to tell me they would help me but now they treat me like I'm a stupid man who doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[NaNoW]

what did I just read...

 

[Magpie]

Let me get this clear.
From what I understand, is that you see yourself in the other dimension and feel as if you're being affected?


what I can say, is you should disregard that and focus on the reality that you are in, not any other.
Leave the other worlds be.

Secondly, This is a matter resolved personally through a psychiatrist. He can help you out while being there with you, Step by Step.
We're not with you, and whatever we say will not reach you deeply.


Edit: Honestly through, I see a huge projection of what reality has done to you from this post. (Just a hunch)
Has something bad happened in the past, by any chance? Anything that is more related to whatever you're saying at the moment.

Such as, any bad social experience, like not being grateful to your kindness, or sexual harrassment, Anything of the sort?

Thank you for this reply.

To answer,
it is not another dimension, I don't think so. It is, without complicating it or without any confusion, the unseen world, or the spiritual world that the Holy Quran tells us is there.

You tell me I should disregard it. Well, that's what I've been doing for the past 3 years when I'm trying to understand it and see how it is that I can go about explaining it to people. That there's an unseen world out there and somehow I could access it and when I did and saw other people there and tried to talk to them, I found them to be really different from how I'd seen them to be in the real world, and I got homosexually contacted by them, which they did that to counter me for the power I had over this inner world, and probably because of the talks I had with people I couldn't access in the real world and ones I had never known either, these talks they were bringing people into question about life with a lot of people gathered there, I was just starting freshly and not knowing or caring about anything I did that.

So I cannot disregard it because I have suffered a lot through it and when I do that, it would probably mean accepting it what these people have done to me. They would get away with it just because I don't have the means to prove it and it's not there enough for normal people to easily find it out.


Consulting a psychiatrist, as you say I should, that would prove to be a very good thing for me. It would help me in a lot of ways, but I'm suspicious that these types of people are everywhere in the world, and I suspect this too much to think that I could be the only normal person left. So I think that a psychiatrist would never want to understand my view. He has terms for my problems, but I know it's all real.

As for something bad happening in the past, hm, yes, I have done some bad sexual things in the past. But I quickly knew better and stopped.
Social experiences, yes, bad sexual things in my school, but I don't think any of these things caused this to happen to me.
As for return of kindness, it doesn't happen normally but I don't expect it to, because I do it for me or for Allah, so yes, Allah probably does return it in some way or the other.


The main thing is that these types of people are like this no matter what. They knew about these things long before I did, and it probably runs in their family, and these types of families are everywhere, not just in Pakistan, but everywhere in the World. America, England, China, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Russia, Dubai, India, Europe, everywhere!

They want to find people like me so they can steal the good from our souls. Our good lives that we've lived, and the good we've collected in our lives. I'm like a person who has found this secret out and needs your help to do something about it! To uncover this properly, regardless of what they've done.

Bro, welcome to the era of next gen. The era of mind f*cking video games and movies. Welcome to the other dimension of this wretched world, the dimension all gamers live in. Don't get raped, though. It's not funny.

As-Salaam-Alaykum, sir, and thank you for your kind reply.

I need to ask you, when you say things such as "mind-rape" and "other dimension", do you mean it literally, that it really happens, right?

As I've found out, these words have a meaning, but not in the real world, it's only in the hidden, unseen world that I talk about. People talk like this to make sense of it to each other, the inner life and what goes on in there between them.

So, I must also ask you, with this reply do you confirm that you know about this as well? You know what I'm talking about?

And ok, to name another person that has had an involvement in it, it's a name "Shary Bhallu TC" that I have seen there, and he tried to help me a little and to tell me that he's like a friend for me in there.

Thank you.



For some evidence, I would like you people to view one of the most recent songs by a band by the name of "Bastille", the song is called "Send them off!":

Look at the main character in the video, how he witnesses things one can never normally see in the real world. So he's viewing the world from some other kind of view or perspective, and this is exactly what I'm doing when I see it!

That world is related a lot to spirituality and intelligence, but it's what people are doing there that gets me to find help!


To say more about this, I would like to tell you that sports like Football and cricket etc., all are played for this other world, what goes on in it, to counter that (the bad things), a lot, especially professionally.

So, when I tell you that I could bring other people into it, I naturally brought people that are very well-known in these ways, so also them, they were all involved in this as well.

Now, with that, other people like Ronaldinho, Van Nistelrooy, Van Persie, Ronaldo, Messi, etc also got involved in these things since it was happening on such a wide and influential scale.

So, I have to ask you, with this Ronaldinho and friends match happening soon in Karachi and Lahore, since it's kind of an opportunity for me to ask him about it, could there be a way to get to any of them somehow? Especially Ronaldinho, or Ronaldo Phenomenon, who they do know me through the inner world and would probably have something to say about it if explained properly.


That's all I want to say right now, thank you, and As-Salaam-Alaykum.

 

[Magpie]

Now in my helplessness, there were a few other things I made that are there if you want to check them out.

A tumblr blog: lifepeoplecountenanceroom.tumblr.com
which I made for fun, because of how damaged I used to feel and how easily I was forgetting.

And my twitter, where I've tried to contact so many of these "influential" people and they never gave me any replies back:

Saad Hamid (@Saad_Hamid_) on Twitter


I also met many people in the real world who, when I explained this to them, did confirm that I was telling the truth, and that it is real!

 

[sTraNg3r]

Mate can I have some of whatever it is that you're smoking?

 

[Magpie]

Is it so hard to believe? I don't smoke anything but ok.


But smoking is what gets you up there somewhere, where you see these things, isn't it? You go high! "high"

 

[NaNoW]

Is it so hard to believe? I don't smoke anything but ok.


But smoking is what gets you up there somewhere, where you see these things, isn't it? You go high! "high"

I like how you turned his sarcasm into a point..XD


I am a b3li3v3r now!!

 

[fahdfsk]

You sound like a person, who has been sleep deprived for like a year. Dont you have any good chicks there? doing stuff to you ? why only neighbors doing bad things ?

 

[Magpie]

You sound like a person, who has been sleep deprived for like a year. Dont you have any good chicks there? doing stuff to you ? why only neighbors doing bad things ?

Sleeping less than I used to. Been waking up a lot before I could do all of the sleep. Somehow I'm seeing these people in my dreams as well, and sometimes I see my dreams like it's a movie playing instead. I feel like they've gone inside me and changed me a lot from how Allah has made me (to be able to access these places where these natural things happen, which we can't explain in physical or scientific terms, can we?)



Yes, people like me can bring women into these unseen places. A lot of women have done good and bad things to me in this inner reality and I have brought a lot of women into this inner reality, as have these other people. A lot of bad things happen to these women. It is a cause for concern, but only if you feel it that this happens. You aren't really affected but it does change you in many ways, (when these people do things to you in their inner reality.) which, these changes, people just pass it off as normal. But only when you know this happens, and I don't like it to happen to me, personally. Maybe it's a good thing because our intellect is what's supposed to deal with these things, I think (naturally, because we don't know these things when we are of the physical world).

[You may have the question of how there are real people there but not one of them likes to talk about it. Well, that's why I think this is a whole other kind of human beings, and they have been going through this for a long time which makes them think and accept it to be just normal. Somehow, they all agree to keep it a secret, as far as I've seen, and they all have a like-mindedness with each other. If they talk about it in the real world, it's a normal talk but they are also trying to say something with that as well, and I guess you can understand easily when you know this other reality.]



Neighbors? I don't know why they do these things to me. They used to tell me that "you brought down and made to fall a lot of people of highness (or greatness?). They were at a high place and you brought them down from there", something like that. Maybe they didn't like me to have any of this, or didn't like me to do what I was doing (which was that I was bringing people like Nawaz Sharif and Barack Obama into question on many things).

Maybe they (my neighbors) thought they're superior and this was a way for them to show their superiority (with what they did to me).

I think they did these bad things to me to be able to get inside of me. To bring 'me' down from my high place and to undo me, from the power I had. I think also, that they do these things to know a person how one can not know them normally and is not allowed by Allah, to do so.

How it is evidently stated in the Quran, that Prophet Lut's people used to practice something called 'sodomy' [Prophet Lut had angels to help him and somehow all of these people could see these angels which does confuse me as to how normal people could see them, whether they did it in the real world or was it the same way how I can see unusual things. The angels brought Allah's wrath on them because of their wrongs.] and that was as Wikipedia tells us in its article about it, "so that they could know each other".

Well, when these people did these things to me, this is exactly what they were trying to achieve. They were trying to bring me down from my high place and they also ruined my purity so that they could access me and know me more than they can normally, and after that this is what allowed them to change me from my natural state.

At the present time, the changes are huge of my mind, feeling and power (from how they were in their natural states).

I've lost a lot of my mind, my thoughts and my memories. They have changed my feeling, power and my ability to think and reason by making me get used to different things than I was normally myself before (with how I'd lived my life). My perception of things also is very different now. And in all of these things was my whole life because I don't feel I'm myself anymore!


It's pretty much that, to take over this life from me, they rape me, and they're trying to swap my mind for theirs. Also have experienced a lot of fight from them when I have regained a good frame of mind with which I could undo these people easily.

How do they access this inner reality? I don't know, but I've observed that they use mobile phones a lot, and other things like these.

 

[DogePlayer]

Sleeping less than I used to. Been waking up a lot before I could do all of the sleep. Somehow I'm seeing these people in my dreams as well, and sometimes I see my dreams like it's a movie playing instead. I feel like they've gone inside me and changed me a lot from how Allah has made me (to be able to access these places where these natural things happen, which we can't explain in physical or scientific terms, can we?)



Yes, people like me can bring women into these unseen places. A lot of women have done good and bad things to me in this inner reality and I have brought a lot of women into this inner reality, as have these other people. A lot of bad things happen to these women. It is a cause for concern, but only if you feel it that this happens. You aren't really affected but it does change you in many ways, (when these people do things to you in their inner reality.) which, these changes, people just pass it off as normal. But only when you know this happens, and I don't like it to happen to me, personally. Maybe it's a good thing because our intellect is what's supposed to deal with these things, I think (naturally, because we don't know these things when we are of the physical world).

[You may have the question of how there are real people there but not one of them likes to talk about it. Well, that's why I think this is a whole other kind of human beings, and they have been going through this for a long time which makes them think and accept it to be just normal. Somehow, they all agree to keep it a secret, as far as I've seen, and they all have a like-mindedness with each other. If they talk about it in the real world, it's a normal talk but they are also trying to say something with that as well, and I guess you can understand easily when you know this other reality.]



Neighbors? I don't know why they do these things to me. They used to tell me that "you brought down and made to fall a lot of people of highness (or greatness?). They were at a high place and you brought them down from there", something like that. Maybe they didn't like me to have any of this, or didn't like me to do what I was doing (which was that I was bringing people like Nawaz Sharif and Barack Obama into question on many things).

Maybe they (my neighbors) thought they're superior and this was a way for them to show their superiority (with what they did to me).

I think they did these bad things to me to be able to get inside of me. To bring 'me' down from my high place and to undo me, from the power I had. I think also, that they do these things to know a person how one can not know them normally and is not allowed by Allah, to do so.

How it is evidently stated in the Quran, that Prophet Lut's people used to practice something called 'sodomy' [Prophet Lut had angels to help him and somehow all of these people could see these angels which does confuse me as to how normal people could see them, whether they did it in the real world or was it the same way how I can see unusual things. The angels brought Allah's wrath on them because of their wrongs.] and that was as Wikipedia tells us in its article about it, "so that they could know each other".

Well, when these people did these things to me, this is exactly what they were trying to achieve. They were trying to bring me down from my high place and they also ruined my purity so that they could access me and know me more than they can normally, and after that this is what allowed them to change me from my natural state.

At the present time, the changes are huge of my mind, feeling and power (from how they were in their natural states).

I've lost a lot of my mind, my thoughts and my memories. They have changed my feeling, power and my ability to think and reason by making me get used to different things than I was normally myself before (with how I'd lived my life). My perception of things also is very different now. And in all of these things was my whole life because I don't feel I'm myself anymore!


It's pretty much that, to take over this life from me, they rape me, and they're trying to swap my mind for theirs. Also have experienced a lot of fight from them when I have regained a good frame of mind with which I could undo these people easily.

How do they access this inner reality? I don't know, but I've observed that they use mobile phones a lot, and other things like these.

The thing im trying to understand from all this and the previous post are two things

1. You're seeing these people in your dreams and its all in your dreams.

2. You're seeing these people in your dreams and in reality when you see these people your imagination takes over giving you a different perspective?

Secondly you're saying that this perception and different perspectives have been the result of sodomy ? Is it because you had gone through an act of homosexuality and have gotten this kind of "powers" ? Or is it because you had gone through an act of homosexuality in your dreams and gotten these "powers"?

 

[fahdfsk]

Sleeping less than I used to. Been waking up a lot before I could do all of the sleep. Somehow I'm seeing these people in my dreams as well, and sometimes I see my dreams like it's a movie playing instead. I feel like they've gone inside me and changed me a lot from how Allah has made me (to be able to access these places where these natural things happen, which we can't explain in physical or scientific terms, can we?)



Yes, people like me can bring women into these unseen places. A lot of women have done good and bad things to me in this inner reality and I have brought a lot of women into this inner reality, as have these other people. A lot of bad things happen to these women. It is a cause for concern, but only if you feel it that this happens. You aren't really affected but it does change you in many ways, (when these people do things to you in their inner reality.) which, these changes, people just pass it off as normal. But only when you know this happens, and I don't like it to happen to me, personally. Maybe it's a good thing because our intellect is what's supposed to deal with these things, I think (naturally, because we don't know these things when we are of the physical world).

[You may have the question of how there are real people there but not one of them likes to talk about it. Well, that's why I think this is a whole other kind of human beings, and they have been going through this for a long time which makes them think and accept it to be just normal. Somehow, they all agree to keep it a secret, as far as I've seen, and they all have a like-mindedness with each other. If they talk about it in the real world, it's a normal talk but they are also trying to say something with that as well, and I guess you can understand easily when you know this other reality.]



Neighbors? I don't know why they do these things to me. They used to tell me that "you brought down and made to fall a lot of people of highness (or greatness?). They were at a high place and you brought them down from there", something like that. Maybe they didn't like me to have any of this, or didn't like me to do what I was doing (which was that I was bringing people like Nawaz Sharif and Barack Obama into question on many things).

Maybe they (my neighbors) thought they're superior and this was a way for them to show their superiority (with what they did to me).

I think they did these bad things to me to be able to get inside of me. To bring 'me' down from my high place and to undo me, from the power I had. I think also, that they do these things to know a person how one can not know them normally and is not allowed by Allah, to do so.

How it is evidently stated in the Quran, that Prophet Lut's people used to practice something called 'sodomy' [Prophet Lut had angels to help him and somehow all of these people could see these angels which does confuse me as to how normal people could see them, whether they did it in the real world or was it the same way how I can see unusual things. The angels brought Allah's wrath on them because of their wrongs.] and that was as Wikipedia tells us in its article about it, "so that they could know each other".

Well, when these people did these things to me, this is exactly what they were trying to achieve. They were trying to bring me down from my high place and they also ruined my purity so that they could access me and know me more than they can normally, and after that this is what allowed them to change me from my natural state.

At the present time, the changes are huge of my mind, feeling and power (from how they were in their natural states).

I've lost a lot of my mind, my thoughts and my memories. They have changed my feeling, power and my ability to think and reason by making me get used to different things than I was normally myself before (with how I'd lived my life). My perception of things also is very different now. And in all of these things was my whole life because I don't feel I'm myself anymore!


It's pretty much that, to take over this life from me, they rape me, and they're trying to swap my mind for theirs. Also have experienced a lot of fight from them when I have regained a good frame of mind with which I could undo these people easily.

How do they access this inner reality? I don't know, but I've observed that they use mobile phones a lot, and other things like these.

Do you watch superhero movies ?

Honestly, what it feels to me is that either you are a victim of some black magic spell or you have taken superhero movies way too seriously in your conscience. There is no such thing as inner reality. you are nothing special you are just as normal and just as special as we all are. I dont know what else to say.

 

[kensid]

Our mind is the greatest magician and when it starts playing tricks then the reality takes a back seat.

 

[Magpie]

[MENTION=136611]DogePlayer[/MENTION], 1. Yes, I do see these people in my dreams, but it is not all in my dreams. 2. Yes, I see these people in my dreams and in reality, since I can use my imagination to look at that other life. When I use my imagination/focus to look at them, then yes, I do see them in an other way. It doesn't change my perspective on anything, but with the mind I have to be able to look at the world in a different way, I can see them there in the other reality, (or other side of reality, it could be), acting according to their own selves, there as well.

I did not say that I have gained this way of perceiving things after this attack of sodomy. This perception I talk about was the one that is there now because of all the life I have lived (and I'm pretty sure that it is what allowed me to go out of my way so much to be able to find things like these).

Why I say 'sodomy' (when I refer to what these people do to me) is because I think Sodomy means something different than normal homosexuality. Sodomy is what these people of Sodom used to do and what they used to do it for. That is for lust, but also, from Wikipedia, "so that they could know each other". What we call 'Sodomy', is actually a special practice, and it's especially related to the inner life.

My perspectives have changed and that has been because these evil practices have allowed these people to go further into my mind to be able to change it, and this evil practice itself when they do it to me, robs me of my intellect, feelings, and a lot of what I've gathered that makes me feel good. I can not see the world normally the same way that I used to be able to. So yes, sodomy has been a huge thing for them in being able to change me or my perspectives.

They try to engineer my mind in a way, to make it different or to make it accept things that naturally are not true by doing these things and this is the way how they were able to take my power from me.

I've lost a lot of power but also my intelligence, thoughts, feelings, passions, memories, experiences, and also, the inner strength of my mind, are all not there in the same way anymore, I think.

The power I have over or in this other world was probably because I was a muslim, normally doing what muslims do, living a normal life. Doing good things definitely has good results there, and as I used to do it, thinking about and reasoning with myself about the existence and 'Being there' of Allah, gave me a lot of power in this other kind of spiritual way, and it was also one of the reasons I was able to see this other reality.

So no, sodomy in my mind or in my dreams is not what gave me this power!

[MENTION=25956]fahdfsk[/MENTION], it could be black magic but why do you think this isn't real and it's something from a comic or movie? Something I've absorbed in my mind from them? Well, they do change me and inspire me, but this is all real, a natural part of a human's being, I'm sure. Could be our conscience as you say where this is all happening, so why do you say that and then tell me inner realities do not exist?

[MENTION=12192]kensid[/MENTION], you are right, it easy to fall into confusion, working so deeply into your mind and thoughts especially. But how do you think this relates to what I am going through?

 

[Magpie]

Thanks for the kind replies. Now, I have to ask here, if this is all real, why can't you guys help me to do a real investigation into all of this? I mean, I'm getting raped in the most weird unusual way. I can't exactly prove it, but this is still really happening, and it's world-wide.

Help me talk to the people who are doing this to me. I need to talk to them in a real way. What can I do when no one believes me and I can more easily be doubted on these matters than anyone else can.


As-Salaam-Alaykum.