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    Thread: Joker Officially Becomes The Highest Grossing R-Rated Movie Ever

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      Joaquin Phoenix Officially Cast as The Joker In New Origin Movie



      Joaquin Phoenix is officially set to play DC's biggest villain in The Joker origin movie. Warner Bros. is moving forward with plans that will help separate their comic book movies from the competition. They're still building a connected universe (just like every studio in Hollywood is trying to do), but they're also double-dipping with DC content and characters. The plan is to launch a new banner at Warner Bros., rumored to be titled DC Dark, that will tell smaller, darker stories based on DC's most popular characters.
      They aren't taking it slow either, with a movie centered around The Joker planned to be the first out of the gate. Leonardo DiCaprio was linked as the ideal choice originally, but talks quickly turned to Joaquin Phoenix. He's been hesitant to sign on to comic book movie roles in the past, and has been cagey about whether or not he'd play The Joker. But, there's no need to worry anymore.



      Warner Bros. officially announced that Joaquin Phoenix will star in the still untitled Joker origin story. The film will be directed by Todd Phillips and co-written by Scott Silver. This won't be the typical comic book movie though, as Warner Bros. described the film as an“exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale.” This sounds more in line with Phoenix's interests and could give him some great material to dive into.




      Getting Phoenix to sign on for this Joker origin movie was no small task. He's notoriously picky about the material he attaches himself to, so this hopefully speaks to the quality of the script. It also should further indicate Warner Bros.' intentions of making this a standalone film, as a multi-film contract was one of the main reasons he reportedly passed on playing Doctor Strange in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
      The plan is for Phoenix's Joker movie to start production this September. Unlike its comic book-based blockbuster counterparts though, this movie will feature a smaller budget that is reportedly close to $55 million. Now that the movie has its star and start date, the rest of the film can start to come together. Leaked character descriptions recently pointed to Robert De Niro being eyed for a role in the film. Whoever else ultimately joins up prior to production starting, those descriptions could help shed light on the actual story the film plans on telling. With a possible late 2019 release date in mind, it won't be too long before fans know for sure.


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      First Joker Solo Film Story Details & Possible 2019 Release Revealed



      Joaquin Phoenix's Jokerorigin movie at Warner Bros. is moving forward as new story details emerge and, though the studio hasn't staked a release date, it's possible the film could release as early as late 2019.
      Warner Bros. intend to diversify their superhero slate, launching a range of "Elsewords"-style movies that aren't connected to the continuity of the DCEU. The first of these is a Joker origin movie, and there have long been reports that Joaquin Phoenix was in talks for the role. Over the last month, there have been reports that the film has a budget of just $55 million, in marked contrast with the typical superhero blockbuster. More recently, there were rumors that the movie would actually start filming in September this year.



      It looks as though all the rumors were right. Warner Bros. has confirmed that Todd Phillips - who co-wrote the script with Scott Silver - is signed up as director. The studio describes the film as being an “exploration of a man disregarded by society [that] is not only a gritty character study, but also a broader cautionary tale.” The movie doesn't yet have an official release date, but may hit theaters in late 2019.




      Details are scarce when it comes to this mysterious Joker origin movie, as the character's backstory has actually never been revealed in the comics. Recent character descriptionsseem to suggest the film will actually be inspired by Victor Hugo's The Man Who Laughs. Ironically, a film adaptation of that novel is believed to have been the inspiration for the character in the first place, so that would certainly be fitting. Curiously, there have been recent rumors that the film will actually tie into Matt Reeves's The Batman, given Reeves is believed to have turned in a script focusing on a younger Batman. If that is indeed the case, there's really no reason these two films couldn't interconnect.
      The timing of this announcement surely suggests Warner Bros. will give away more information at San Diego Comic-Con this month. While the Warner Bros. panel is expected to focus on Aquaman, it's also believed the studio will find the time to promote other superhero films that are in the works, notably Shazam!and Wonder Woman 2. There's certainly no better way to catch the world's attention than to drop some major hints for this origin story at the world's biggest superhero con.


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      Where does that leave Jared Leto's Joker? Are they just gonna retcon him or something?


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      Quote Originally Posted by XxRebellionxX View Post
      Where does that leave Jared Leto's Joker? Are they just gonna retcon him or something?
      No as per sources he's getting his own movie let's see


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      Joaquin Phoenix Wanted To Do A Low-Budget Comic Book Villain Film Years Ago


      Although news about a new Joker movie starring Joaquin Phoenix seems like it came out of right field, the actor recently admitted that he has wanted to make a low-budget, character-focused comic book movie for some time. Not only that, but Phoenix always had the Joker - or another villain - in mind for such a film.
      Rumors began to surface about a separate Joker movie in early 2018. Although many DC fans dismissed the rumors, the rumblings never really went away. Eventually, DC confirmed that a standalone Joker film would start filming soon, with Phoenix in the iconic role of the Clown Prince of Crime. DC went on to placate fans with news that this movie would not affect Jared Leto's portrayal of the character in the DC Extended Universe. The new movie is its own entity.



      In an interview with Collider, Phoenix recently admitted that he had the idea of doing a lower budget superhero movie several years ago.
      "Three or four years ago, I called my agent and said ‘Why don’t they want to take one of these characters and just make a lower budget film about it, a movie but a character study, and why not take one of the villains?’ And I thought, ‘You can’t do the Joker, because, you know, it’s just you can’t do that character, it’s just been done.’ So I was trying to think of other characters, and he said ‘I’ll set up a general meeting with Warner Bros.’ And I said ‘I’m not gonna go, I can’t go to a general meeting.’ So I completely forgot about it, and so then I heard about this idea, I was like, ‘Oh that’s so exciting, that’s the kind of experience I wanted to have, with a movie based on a comic character.’ I felt like you could get something on screen.”



      It seems that Phoenix always had interest in the character of the Joker, but that he seemed to think the idea wouldn't work. DC went on to cast Leto in the role in Suicide Squad, a move that outraged a lot of DC fans. Leto's behind-the-scenes antics and his performance did little to please DC fans, so it seems that Warner Bros. believes a different take on the character is now something DC fans are open to.
      Phoenix is just another actor in a long line who have taken on the role. Cesar Romero made the live-action character famous with his campy take on it in the 1960s Batman television series. Jack Nicholson followed suit in the Tim Burton films. Heath Ledger wowed audiences with his darker take on the Clown Prince in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight. To many fans, Leto seemed like a step backward with the character in Suicide Squad. However, DC fans seem more positive about Phoenix being cast in the role of Batman's archnemesis, in spite of the film having no ties to the DCEU.
      Fans are already speculating about what Phoenix might look like as the Joker, hoping for a more traditional look that stays true to the comic books and animated series. The movie will uncover more of the Joker's origin story, although it's likely that it will be more of a darker look into the psyche of a man who embraces chaos for a living.
      A few questions remain, though: Do DC fans really need another Joker? And if they are more accepting of Phoenix as the character, will they demand that he replace Leto in the DCEU? It remains to be seen as the new Joker project moves forward.


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      Joker Origin Movie Title & Release Date Officially Revealed



      Warner Bros. gives Joker an official title and late 2019 release date. While WB is still flirting with the idea of a cinematic universe, the big move they've made is starting another branch at DC that focus on smaller, darker, and riskier projects. The label, reportedly titled DC Dark or DC Black, already has its first project gearing up. Todd Phillips is directing a Joker origin movie and it was recently confirmed that Joaquin Phoenix is set to star.
      Production is rapidly approaching on the character piece as September is the targeted start. Casting is also progressing as Robert De Niro is reportedly being eyed for a role, while Frances McDormand passed on one. With everything falling into place, WB now has given Joker a release date.



      Warner Bros. officially announced today that Joker is the title of the Joaquin Phoenix-led film and that it will hit theaters on October 4, 2019. This will give the project just over a year to film and then go through the post-production process with the September start now confirmed.




      This is the final piece that Joker needed to truly solidify itself. Having a director and star onboard, a script in hand, a start date in mind, and a release date set are all necessary steps for film like this to take. This eliminates any doubt that the movie could potentially fall through in the coming weeks, barring some unforeseen instance. It also gives everyone the official timeframe for the movie and confirmation on what to call it.
      A 2019 release was expected based on the reported production start and the October placement should fit Joker nicely. While the quality of the product can't yet be determined, it does give it a release window close to awards season - just in case Phoenix and co. deliver something special. It does however put it up against Ang Lee and Will Smith's futuristic action/thriller Gemini Man, which should be worthwhile competition for Joker to try and defeat. WB's film has the known IP factor, but Gemini Man has formidable box office star Will Smith leading the charge.
      Looking at the larger DC picture now, Joker's official 2019 release means there will be three DC related live-action films released next year. Joker will hit theaters just a month before Wonder Woman 1984, but several months after Shazam! Depending on how this separate label works, this could be a rough schedule for years to come. Two films in the connected universe and one standalone movie would allow WB to capitalize on the comic book movie craze without rushing other shared universe films out. With WB making this announcement days ahead of their San Diego Comic-Con panel, more Joker or DC news could be on the way.


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      Joker Movie: Zazie Beetz In Talks To Join Joaquin Phoenix DC Film




      Warner Bros' Joker movie starring Joaquin Phoenix is eying Deadpool 2 actress Zazie Beetz a role in the 2019 DC movie. While the studio is continuing on with what is known unofficially as the DC Extended Universe, Warner Bros. is also planning a series of DC Comics movies not set in that same cinematic universe. The first of these will be Joker, starring Phoenix as the titular Clown Prince of Crime, and The Hangover's Todd Phillips directing from a script he co-wrote with Scott Silver. Recently, Warner Bros. officially announced the film and gave Joker a 2019 release date.
      While little else about this upcoming Joker standalone film is known, now that it's officially in development and dated for Fall 2019, expect plenty more news to roll in. In fact, Warner Bros. may have something planned to build buzz for the movie at the studio's San Diego Comic-Con 2018 panel later this week. But for now, fans will have to make due with a little bit of casting news as an X-Men universe actress is reportedly in talks to join the Joker movie.



      THR reports Deadpool 2's Zazie Beetz is in talks to join Warner Bros' Joker. Though the exact details of her role are still being kept under wraps she would play a single mother who catches the eye of Phoenix's Joker. Joker is expected to start filming in September of this year in New York City, so the full cast of the film should solidify over the next few months - and Beetz will either close a deal with Warner Bros. or move on.




      Prior to landing the role of Domino in Deadpool 2, Beetz drew attention for her performance in Donald Glover's FX TV series Atlanta, in which she plays his character's on-again, off-again girlfriend and the mother of their daughter. Thanks to the attention gained by Glover's critically acclaimed show, Beetz has since transitioned to a number of high-profile movie roles, including portraying the mutant with luck abilities in Deadpool 2. Beetz is expected to reprise her role as Domino for X-Force and potential further X-Men universe films.
      As for Beetz's role in Joker, her skills in providing compelling and dynamic performances will no doubt lend themselves well to Phillips' different kind of comic book movie. Joker is said to be more character driven than a typical comic adaptation, in the vein of Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy. Based in these descriptions, it likely resembles Logan more than Deadpool 2, but Beetz's experience in the superhero genre should no doubt come in handy as well forJoker.
      Though many DC fans are already intrigued by what Phoenix can bring to a Joker solo movie, others are less enthused about seeing another big screen iteration of the Clown Prince of Crime (Jared Leto's Joker is reportedly getting a solo movie as well). However, with Beetz joining the project, we have a somewhat better idea of what Phillips and Warner Bros. are going for - and Joker may win over its detractors yet.

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      Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker Movie is the Next Evolution of Superhero Cinema




      As Joaquin Phoenix is confirmed to be the new Joker in a DCEU spin-off, Joker, set to take place outside the DCEU, the superhero movie genre is about to see a new type of comic book movie that takes a bold new step forward for the genre.
      After months of speculation, it was finally confirmed that Oscar-nominated actor Joaquin Phoenix will be playing the Joker in Warner Bros. and DC’s planned spin-off origin story focusing on Batman’s greatest adversary. Todd Phillips of The Hangover trilogy will direct, and while rumors suggest the previously attached Martin Scorsese will no longer serve as producer, the film looks set to be a darker, more experimental approach to the superhero genre. Little is known about the project beyond gossip and conjecture – it is thought that the story will receive inspiration from a variety of sources, including Alan Moore’s The Killing Joke, and Martin Scorsese's Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy, with a story that takes place in the 1980s. Fan response to the project has been mixed, with some feeling that Jared Leto has not been given a fair shot at establishing himself as the DCEU canon Joker. Others have questioned the necessity of an origin story for the character, but overall, the casting of Phoenix has been very popular.


      While DC fans wait for more news, conversations continue over what this film means not only for the DCEU but the ever-burgeoning superhero genre. Joker will be the first official spin-off film from the established DCEU. It will also be part of a new offshoot for the studio, titled either
      DC Black or DC Dark, which will focus on telling more adult-oriented takes on the canon. With a $55 million budget and much-promised R-rating, the Joker film will be a notable contrast from the all but accepted rules of modern superhero blockbuster film-making: Big budgets, PG-13 ratings, fun for all the family. There are exceptions, such as the wildly successful Logan and Deadpool films, but both DC and Marvel have heavily stuck to that familiar formula since superheroes became the structural foundations of modern Hollywood. It’s a system fans have gotten used to, which may be in part why this Joker film has raised so many eyebrows, even though it could be the next big evolution of the genre.



      THE JOKER ORIGIN MOVIE IS SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW




      Trying to adhere to the expanded universe formula of blockbuster film-making hasn’t been the most efficient or successful move for Warner Bros. and DC. While Marvel’s wildly ambitious plan has reaped many rewards, DC’s attempt to replicate it in a quicker fashion struggled to excite the audiences needed to help the films gain a profit. While the DCEU seems to be on safer tracks now, with positive buzz around upcoming projects like Wonder Woman 1984,Aquaman and Shazam!, it certainly doesn’t hurt to take a different path at the same time. Indeed, it could help establish the next phase of the genre for all of Hollywood.


      The Joker film won’t connect to the wider DCEU, and the chances are it won’t even feature the character’s greatest nemesis. While this has been a topic of contention for some fans, it’s also something genuinely new and unexpected for this era of the superhero film. Sony is trying something similar with
      Venom, but that film is still more traditional in its approach and scale. It’s clearly trying to fit in with what Sony has already done with its Spider-Man films, by having a big budget, major effects work, and keeping it in canon. DC isn’t attempting that with this Joker film. It will be its own thing, a one and done drama utterly unconcerned with tying everything into a bigger picture. In an era where every blockbuster costs 9-figures and has to be part of an intricate universe, there’s something refreshing and necessary about this approach.


      SUPERHEROES ARE HITTING A COMIC BOOK WALL

      There are decades of comic book canon, multiple timelines, and variations on every character that any film-maker or producer working in the DCEU will have to deal with. Which version of Batman do you choose? How do you make that character definitively Batman but also unique enough to warrant their own film? Is it possible to do that without straying too far from whatever canon is at the heart of your franchise? The DCEU faced much criticism for its darker take on some of its heroes, even though those versions could already be found in various forms across the many years of comic book history.
      Moreover, characters like Batman, Superman, and The Joker have become so embedded in the popular consciousness that even people who don’t watch comic book movies can recognize them. They are comparable to the great protagonists of the literary canon, such as Dracula and Sherlock Holmes, in that regard. The history of comic book cinema, as short as it is, has been built on the canon compliant notion that any and every iteration of these characters can exist alongside one another. Michael Keaton’s Batman is as canon as Val Kilmer’s is as canon as Christian Bale’s and so on.


      This is something we have seen less of in the current era of superhero cinema. Now that every film is part of an expanded universe and it must connect to a wider narrative spanning possibly dozens of films, audiences have become accustomed to there being one version of each character. There is one
      Captain America, as played by Chris Evans, and if anyone takes over the mantle, it won’t be that Steve Rogers. That presents many great storytelling opportunities and allows fans to build deep connections to the characters in ways we haven’t necessarily experienced with the old model of stopping once a trilogy is completed.


      The ambition is undeniable, but through this model, superhero cinema has ignored one of the things that makes comic books so unique and interesting: The variety of timelines and options. What seemed so freeing as a creative path also has its inherent limitations. By shooting off with DC Dark/Black, Warner Bros. are getting back to the heart of the genre. There’s so much of the comic books left unexplored, but there’s also a lot of that creators can do with these characters independent of any canon, freeing them from the need to choose a "difinitive" depiction of well known characters.
      PHOENIX'S JOKER TAKES US BEYOND THE EXPANDED UNIVERSE MODEL




      Phillips and Phoenix’s Joker film arguably has more in common with the superhero and comic book films that preceded the current expanded universe era than anything of the past decade: It’s happy to aim for a more adult audience, like the Blade trilogy; it’s eschewing the typical origin mold and finding its roots in the crime genre, akin to Tim Burton’s Batman; and it doesn’t exist to set up a slew of sequels. In that sense, this film could change the superhero movie game by bringing us full circle. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
      Studios shouldn’t force themselves to be boxed in by one mold of franchise film-making, nor should they insist that every superhero film be part of a franchise. There’s something to be said for a stripped back approach: One-off films, lower budgets, bigger risks. The next phase of superhero cinema should have the room to explore the comics canon that’s more abrasive in style and less concerned with appealing to the biggest demographics. We see versions of these stories in television, from Gotham to Greg Berlanti’s CW universe, so why not bring it to the big screen in one or more iterations and serve more niche audiences than the typical blockbusters?



      The DCEU tried to make its model one that harbored the talents of auteurs like Zack Snyder, David Ayer, and Petty Jenkins, as a way to differentiate itself from what Marvel was doing at the time. Yet it could be this Joker film and what follows will finally make that a reality. By offering a true alternative to not only Marvel but their own universe, DC can entice the kind of talent that normally wouldn’t want anything to do with a superhero blockbuster. The evolution of superhero cinema happens not only in form but in approach and business.
      Superhero fatigue will eventually hit audiences, and it seems to have arrived for the DCEU earlier than everyone else. To avoid that taking root and throwing the entire franchise into disarray, Warner Bros. needs to evolve, and this seems like the perfect opportunity to do so. It’s something nobody else is doing right now and, if it works, every other studio may end up following in their trail. That's how the DCEU can find itself on surer ground in the coming years: By offering variety beyond their competition and their own boundaries. Whatever shape Phillips and Phoenix’s Joker film ends up taking, it’s a step forward that the medium could sorely use.




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      Joaquin Phoenix's Joker Origin Movie Eyes GLOW's Marc Maron



      Todd Phillips’s upcoming Joker origin film is eyeing GLOW star Marc Maron to join its ever expanding cast. Previously announced actors in talks for the movie, which will star Joaquin Phoenix as the Clown Prince of Crime, include Robert De Niro, Frances Conroy and Zazie Beetz. The script will be written by Phillips and Scott Silver (The Fighter).
      This long-rumored project has recently begun to take shape, with more and more details being revealed. Little is known of the plot thus far, but the film will take place in Gotham City in the early ‘80s and will introduce Phoenix's character as a failed comedian. The movie is set to begin shooting in September and has a scheduled release date of October 2019. At $55 million, it will have a significantly smaller budget than most modern superhero films. Joker will not be part of the unofficially titled DCEU and will instead launch the company’s new label, to be titled DC Dark or DC Black. With no less than six Joker movies currently in development, one starring Suicide Squad’s Jared Leto is still reportedly in the works.


      Variety reports that Marc Maron is the most recent actor in talks to join Joker. The role he is being considered for is that of a booking agent. The character description has also given insight into De Niro’s role in the film: a late night talk show host. Apparently, Maron’s agent helps Phoenix’s character land a gig on the show, and also aids in his downward spiral into madness. While many suspect this film will take its cues from Alan Moore’s seminal story,The Killing Joke, it will also take inspiration from Martin Scorsese’s 1982 movie, The King of Comedy.








      Maron has earned rave reviews for his portrayal of Sam Sylvia in Netflix’s GLOW. Known for his work as a standup comic, the series has really proven his acting chops. GLOW is a fictional account of the history of GLOW: Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling, a female wrestling show that aired from 1986-89. GLOW just wrapped its critically acclaimed, Emmy-nominated second season and though it has yet to be picked up for a third, its renewal is all but a sure thing. Considering the show has only improved in its second outing, Netflix would be foolish not to let these characters continue their journey.


      Although many were dubious when
      Joker was announced, the strength of this stellar cast is undeniable. The DCEU appears to be distancing itself from the gritty approach that has proven so divisive among fans. Shazam! and Aquaman appear lighter in tone, with both recently dropped trailers receiving positive attention. DC’s new label will not only enable them to continue along in that vein, but also allow them to tell darker stories as well. The DCEU will never be the MCU and it was never meant to be. There is incredible talent both in front of and behind the camera moving forward on this project. Regardless of the doubt surrounding whether or not anyone really wanted this film to be made, it might just be the Joker movie we’ve all been waiting for.


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      Marc Maron Confirms Role in DC's Joker Origin Movie, Praises Script




      Recent reports indicated Marc Maron was under consideration for a role in the Joaquin Phoenix-starring Joker film, and the actor has now confirmed his addition to the cast. Filmmaker Todd Phillips is set to direct Joker, the latest addition to a varied portfolio which includes several turn-of-the-century bro-comedies like Road Trip, Old School, andThe Hangover trilogy.
      Phillips also helmed writing duties on the Borat film, as well as the Jonah Hill-starring biopicWar Dogs back in 2016. Helming the Joker project marks a new foray for him into the genre of comic book films. And since the movie is slated to hit theaters in late 2019, the creative team behind the project is starting to ramp up pre-production by diving into casting, including going after actors and actresses such as Robert De Niro and Zazie Beets. Another person linked to the project has been Maron, who has now confirmed his casting in the film.



      Marc Maron confirmed his Joker casting in a recent episode of the WTF Podcast, describing his surprise and elation at joining Phoenix and De Niro, a development whichclosely follows recent rumors that he was being courted for the film. On the podcast, he said: "It is true ladies and gentlemen, I have been added to the cast of the new Joker movie being directed by Todd Phillips, starring Joaquin Phoenix and Robert De Niro."




      Joker looks to be set in the 1980s, and will tell the origin story of Batman’s most storied villain, although it remains separate from the ongoing DC film universe established aroundJustice League. The film will include the earlier days pre-empting the Joker becoming a proper criminal and villain, and reportedly feature his failing attempts at being a comedian, which makes Maron’s casting as a booking agent an alignment with the actor’s own lauded comedy background.

      Maron's casting also gave the comedian an early look at the current draft of the script, and he commented on Joker's written treatment in his reveal: “Honestly, it's a pretty great script.” He also gushed over the unforeseen opportunity to be featured in a film alongside Robert De Niro,
      who will be playing a talk show host and the employer for Maron's character. While the specifics of the story are currently under wraps, these two characters will apparently be crucial to Joker's evolution into the Clown Prince of Crime. For now, Todd Phillips’ film appears to be taking a radically different direction than Jared Leto's version of the supervillain - and audiences shouldn't have to wait too long to get their first glimpse at the character since Joker is slated to hit theaters next October.

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